Flying Blue Promo Awards, LH First Class – Miles/Points Buzz 24 October

Two most important pieces of information you should be up to date in the miles/points world:

Flying Blue Promo Awards 25-50% Off

This means that a one-way award is 31,250 miles and $250-$400 in taxes.

Flying Blue Search

Flying Blue Search

This is actually not too bad especially for the west coast flights. If only YVR-AMS was on a flat bed… anyways I digress. The list of destinations with varying booking and flying dates are as follows:

Business Class


  • Chicago KLM
  • Houston Air France
  • Toronto KLM
  • Vancouver KLM

31,250 miles each way.


  • Boston Air France
  • Cancun Air France
  • Detroit Air France
  • Montreal Air France
  • New York JFK Air France/KLM
  • Washington DC Air France/KLM

46,875 miles each way.

Link to other cities and economy/premium economy discounted cities is here.

A 25% discount is not that great in my opinion as that means you pay more than 90,000 miles round trip. In that case, you might as well book with Aeroplan.

The other good thing is that many of these awards are now available for 5 months from November 1, 2013 – March 31, 2014, which is longer than previous daes. Blackout dates are from December 18-23, 2013 and from January 2-6, 2014. Note that these are not refundable or cancellable which is the biggest turn off for me. But certainly in some instances they’ll be of great value, and award space is generally not bad on some routes.

Flying Blue points transfer from AMEX MR USA and Starwood.

Is Aeroplan Blocking Lufthansa First Class Space?

Ben says Aeroplan isn’t showing any first class space.

NH Space

NH Space

Aeroplan Results

Aeroplan Results


My opinion? No. Aeroplan’s search interface has long since only shown three first class results when searching online, so if you search routes where United has overlapping First Class Space, that’ll block out the Lufthansa results. I’m believe that agents are using the same (basic) interface to start with, so they get the same results as we do.

If you do need to find this space, ask the agent to direct sell. Let me know if you do find something where there are no first class results yet nothing shows up.

Note that with Aeroplan fuel sucharges are imposed on Lufthansa which can be in the hundreds of dollars.

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  1. Hey Jeff, just checked FlyingBlue for North American routes and there’s no availability showing for Promo Awards. Trying Europe – YYZ, vice versa for December.

    • Booking dates (you can see that on the website) starts 10/30 and travel dates are 1/11-3/31, which is why no discounts are showing up yet. Wait a few days. 🙂

  2. I wonder if United F costs Aeroplan less than Lufthansa F and so they are deliberately suppressing LH results in favour of UA.

  3. I just checked LH F availability YVR-FRA for Nov. 5 and 6 because the showed up on Expert Flyer yesterday, and those dates do show F available on Aeroplan. I suspect AP would give priority in the listing to UA, but in that case calling in should allow the agent to see the seat.

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